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Samsung to Depose Jony Ive and Other Apple Designers, Seeks iPhone 4S Source Code

The legal battle between Apple and Samsung continues to rage in a number of different countries, and Samsung is going on the offensive with recent attempts to obtain testimony from Apple senior vice president Jony Ive and other designers, as well as to receive access to the iPhone 4S source code and the detail of Apple's agreements with carriers in Australia.

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Samsung's planned depositions of Ive and Apple designers Doug Satzger, Shin Nishibori, and Christopher Stringer are part of the U.S. proceedings, with the testimony originally scheduled to be taken by November 1st. But due to scheduling conflicts and other issues, Samsung has filed a motion seeking to extend the timeframe until December 1st. From the motion:

Mr. Satzger is a former Apple employee represented by separate counsel. He is unable to sit for deposition before November 1 because, during the month of October, his lawyer has a full deposition schedule in a separate class action matter.

Mr. Nishibori is unable to sit for deposition before November 1 because he currently is on a voluntary leave of absence from Apple.

Mr. Ive is unable to sit for deposition before November 1 for personal reasons.

Mr. Stringer is unable to sit for deposition before November 1 because of work and scheduling conflicts.

Meanwhile, ZDNet reports on Samsung's legal request to have sales of the iPhone 4S banned in Australia, an effort that has seen the company seek access to the iPhone 4S source code and Apple's specific agreements with Australian carriers in order to make its full case before the court.

In particular, Samsung is keen to find out the amounts of subsidies paid by Telstra, Optus and Vodafone to Apple for selling the iPhones on plans.

[Samsung lawyer Cynthia Cochrane noted:] "If subsidies [are] given for the iPhone 4S, there are less to go around for my client's products."

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[Apple lawyer Cameron] Moore also claimed that because Qualcomm developed the baseband chip in the iPhone 4S — the Qualcomm MDM6610 — and had licence agreements in place for Samsung patents, these agreements would apply to the iPhone 4S. Cochrane said that Samsung experts would need to see the source code for the iPhone 4S firmware to see how the chip interacts with the rest of the phone to determine whether the company's patent is being infringed.

Apple will certainly not give up the requested information willingly, viewing the source code and legal agreements as proprietary information. The judge in the case is Annabelle Bennett, who had previously awarded Apple an injunction barring the sale of Samsung's Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Australia and is now being asked to rule on a similar request from the other side.

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Top Rated Comments

196 months ago
Samsung is pathetic.
Score: 26 Votes (Like | Disagree)
decimortis Avatar
196 months ago
source code request?
Apple should just respond with: 42

D.
Score: 25 Votes (Like | Disagree)
dokujaryu Avatar
196 months ago
Actually, now that I think about it, I really want to see Ive take the stand.

Ive voice: "When you make a product that is so... game changing as the iPod, iPhone, and iPad have been... you get... copycats. But, when the product is not just game changing... but truly special, the copycats... they can be quite large companies. And the lengths they will go to... to justify their... shameless ripoffs of my work... can be hilarious."
Score: 17 Votes (Like | Disagree)
DrJohnnyN Avatar
196 months ago
Just give it up Samsung.
Score: 17 Votes (Like | Disagree)
MorphingDragon Avatar
196 months ago
Accessing iOS source code seems a bit far doesn't it?

Troll Response: Here it is Samsung - http://opensource.apple.com/release/ios-50/
Score: 12 Votes (Like | Disagree)
Menopause Avatar
196 months ago
Apple should just give them the source code to iCloud, it doesn't work anyway.
What doesn't work in iCloud? It's quite a little lame to just blatantly say stuff that makes no sense, do you know that?
Score: 10 Votes (Like | Disagree)
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