China Mobile to Begin iPhone Pre-Orders on December 12

Polite

Ha ha, that headline on the Chinese ad -- the one that starts in black type and then goes red -- is a common polite expression which means "Sorry, I made you wait a long time."

Re China Mobile subscribers already having iPhones it's true. In China, and Asia in general, the cell phone system is totally different. Generally you buy an unlocked phone and then get a SIM card from your carrier. So tens of millions have bought iPhones and then got a China Mobile SIM for it -- the only difference with China Unicom being that you could buy an iPhone in an actual China Unicom store.

However, there's a key difference in the service. The iPhone worked on China Unicom's "fast" network (fast by Chinese standards -- 3G I believe) but on China Mobile you were stuck on 2G (China Mobile's fast network was incompatible with the iPhone). A huge difference in speed. I mean: the difference between a usable smart phone and sitting there 3 minutes waiting to download one email. With the official rollout on China Mobile, I'm assuming the iPhone will now work on the faster China Mobile network.

You may wonder why people who wanted a fast-network iPhone didn't switch to China Unicom. The reason is that China does not have phone number portability. So to switch to Unicom you would have to get a new phone number. Since the cell phone is a key expression and embodiment of individuality in China (for instance, for young people, for whom it is still common to live with parents until marriage, your cell phone is often your own true "personal space"), changing a phone number is considered a much more troublesome task than it is here in the US.

So, although it's true there are millions with iPhones already on China Mobile, this should indeed generate a lot of business in China from:

-- People who just want the latest thing (that's a lot of folks in China!)
-- People already on China Mobile who have been putting off buying an iPhone until they could get on the fast network (probably not that many)
-- People already on China Mobile with an iPhone who now want to upgrade to use the faster network (many millions, surely). Some overlap in this category with the first category of course. There are definitely millions already on China Mobile with an iPhone 4 who have been putting off buying an iPhone 5 because they have heard talk about an official release for a long time (years, in fact).

So it's rather complicated to explain, but the bottom line is: very very good for Apple, but not as big as you might think without knowing the details.

But last week when this first came out Apple stock was only up a couple bucks that day. Even today it's only up $2 pre market. So either Wall Street has already priced this in or they're waiting for an official announcement from Apple.

While the deal would likely cause some upward movement it probably won't move too much until some sales figures come in. China is a difficult market and just being in there is not necessarily enough.

Seriously, how much does the average chinese worker make?

Seriously, how much do you really know about China, Asia or other parts of the world and different cultures?

Perhaps you have spent too much time living under a rock somewhere. Your post i#11 s one of the most ill informed, negative rants I have read in recent memory.

You really need to think about all that terrible bile you have built up inside of yourself.

Seriously, under a communist regime, I don't know how their people can afford them.
I am sure none of the fine workers Foxed&Conned who make the iPhones are able to afford them.
Do you want to know how many work for the mob, corrupt government officials, slave drivers, or environment poachers? Count the iPhones.

China is no longer a communist regime. They used to be a totalitarian communist regime. Now they are just a totalitarian regime. Capitalism without democracy is running wild in China today.

Seriously, how much does the average chinese worker make?

My friend, you have been duped into believing that everyone in China lives a miserable life and that the majority of the people live under awful conditions. You probably also believe the same thing about Africa, with added words like "starving" and "disease".

The truth is, there are people thriving everywhere across the world and there are people who are not thriving everywhere across the world. China is not as under-developed and poor and rural and miserable as the media would perhaps like you to believe.

Those tacky-colored phones with tacky-colored icons and screens are PERFECT for the chinese taste. But, they would have to get used to the lack to toxic chemicals and forced labor that went to make them. Except for the 5S, thank you Apple for selling crap back to china. :roll eyes:

Seriously, under a communist regime, I don't know how their people can afford them.
I am sure none of the fine workers Foxed&Conned who make the iPhones are able to afford them.
Do you want to know how many work for the mob, corrupt government officials, slave drivers, or environment poachers? Count the iPhones.

Jesus man, take a breath. Calm down. It's okay. *pat*