Chime Banking Now Supports Apple Pay

Never heard of this bank before (I'm in Canada) but I love the mobile-first mentality. Millennials don't want branches, don't want to use desktop and don't want fees. This meets all that criteria.

Don't speak for all millennials; I definitely would like some branches for ATM withdrawals and I actually prefer doing online banking through the browser most of the time. (Enough places where I live have $5-10 minimums and/or charge extra to use cards that I can't go completely cashless just yet.)

We have plenty of banks on board, now lets get some more merchants!

OK, well that's not allowed per the merchant/issuer agreement, sorry. Look it up yourself if you don't believe me.

I believe you. I think they're just violating the rule. A lot of these places are sketchy, so I wouldn't put it above them. Yes, besides the places that offer a discount for using cash, there are places that say after you try to use credit that there's a surcharge of some amount greater than 4%.
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That's because we live in America. In other countries, you tap your card and go. American's are too afraid and sensitive of such technology.

I don't know. It's probably just because the cities haven't modernized their train systems. Berkeley's BART trains are old, slow, and screechy, and they don't even have proper signage at the stops. I hear my city-planning-major friend complain about it all the time.

Sit down restaurants are actually one of the most vulnerable to fraud

I don't know where you dine out but I've never had the tip changed from what I've written down on the receipt. (I almost always leave adequate tip though so maybe they don't feel the need to do so.) Also keep in mind that it is fairly easy to figure out who's skimming cards by correlating fraud reports with where and when people have used cards, so it's not exactly something that can be kept up for long.

restaurants with wireless chip and pin readers should play apart of that role.

Why, when just any EMV terminal is enough to stop cloning/skimming?

fraud always ends up at the weakest link... So restaurants without chip readers will be the target for fraud along with internet sales.

Thieves will get a much better bang for the buck with online fraud than by scamming restaurants out of a $20-30 check or two. It's why EMV came the most quickly to places like liquor and electronics stores, which sell expensive, easy to resell items.

Once America goes to 95% > EMV transactions vs. 5% mag-stripe, customers will be wondering why a certain business still implements the old method and wonder if card skimming or another way of fraudulent activity is happening behind the scenes.

With zero liability policies in place by basically every card issuer, I don't think it'll matter to consumers as much as you think.

I'm actually in favor of a law stating chip and pin cards are required to be issued, and the card is not allowed to leave the owners hand during a transaction by 2018. Merchants that don't have the correct pin pads would then be liable for fraudulent charges and also a fine per transaction. Consumer facing and wireless terminals should be the norm everywhere while counter-top readers should not be sold by the card reading manufacturers anymore unless they're wireless and used for restaurants businesses only.

Why should the government mandate that when PIN has actually proven to, at best, only improve lost/stolen fraud in the short term ('https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/credit-cards/emv-shift-credit-cards-not-as-safe/')?

I do agree with you about app bill paying at restaurants. However, many old timers who visit restaurants don't even have smartphones, so there needs to be an alternative; hence, wireless chip readers.

Almost 50% of people 65 and older own a smartphone ('http://www.marketingcharts.com/online/smartphone-penetration-rising-in-all-age-and-income-demos-hits-75-of-us-mobile-market-51585/'). That was back in 2014 so it's likely higher now.

The way I see it, chip and signature and even NFC/contactless are stopgaps until the real transition (to mobile checkout/ordering) takes hold.

Don't be ridiculous.

It has nothing to do with Americans avoiding tap & go. On the contrary, they like it.

His SF based complaint is probably about the fact that adding more fare to your BART card can require cash, because of their vending machine limitations and locations.

People in general aren't really bothering with tap payments though, but it's probably not due to fear of them this time (Apple Pay eliminated the part that people feared the most about it). I think there's still a lot of "what's the point" going on; even chip doesn't seem bothersome enough for most without the upcoming optimizations. More stores implementing the loyalty card part of it will help but I'm not sure by how much yet.

The average person would qualify for the 5.00% as most make more than 15 debit card transactions, spend more than $500 a month, and gets direct deposit.

Although we have ATM/debit cards, we don't use them. In the US, you lose several legal protections if you use a debit card instead of a credit card, and we would give up the rewards from the credit card we DO use.

We also don't have direct deposit. My wife and I are both retired, but aren't old enough to start any pension payments. We are living off periodic withdrawals from our investments, which are "transfers" rather than "direct deposit".