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Tim Cook Visits 'Kitchen Stories' Developers and Furniture Maker Dula on German Trip

Following a trip to France, Tim Cook today toured Germany, where he made a number of stops to visit furniture maker Dula, the developers behind the Kitchen Stories app, and the team at Refinery29.

Cook has been documenting his trip on Twitter, sharing a number of photos at each site. Before leaving France, he made one last stop to visit the Marché Saint-Germain Apple Store, where he met with staff, iOS developers, and Apple customers. It was his second visit to an Apple Store following a stop in Marseille earlier this week.

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He then headed to Vreden, Germany, where he met with Dula. Dula is a furniture manufacturer that works with Apple to create some of the furniture and hardware used in Apple's retail stores.


Cook took a tour of the factory and then headed to Berlin to meet with the developers behind the Kitchen Stories app. Created by two women in 2014, Kitchen Stories is a recipe app that walks users through each step using photos and videos.

During his time at Kitchen Stories, Cook also met with Refinery29 for an exclusive interview where he talked about women in the workplace, diversity, wage gaps, and more.

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Cook was specifically questioned about the German start up scene, where just 13.9 percent of lead roles are held by women. According to Cook, improving that rate hinges on a work environment that "encourages and motivates women to participate." He went on to say that it's a problem that needs to be tackled early in life, in schools, with young women encouraged to enter the STEM field.

Pay equality was also a subject, and Cook explained that Apple pays all employees equally regardless of gender, something all companies should do.

You know, we're probably an outsider, but we pay well and we pay 100% the same. We make a long-term evaluation every year, in order to maintain that. And if we only notice once that someone earns only 99.8% of the salary of another, then we do everything we can to make up for it. I think every company should try to do it. It's just not right and not fair that women still earn so much less than men.

Cook's full comments can be read over at Refinery29, but the original interview is in German and will need to be translated.

Following his short trip to Germany, Cook will head to Scotland on Wednesday where he will accept an honorary degree from the University of Glasgow.

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Chupa Chupa Avatar
127 months ago
Hard at work on that exciting product pipeline I see.
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Porco Avatar
127 months ago
I agree with Tim/Apple on pay equality. It's ludicrous that anyone doing the same job at the same company is not paid the same pay for no good reason (being male or female is not a good reason).

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Left: Cook feels at home in Kitchen Stories. Right: Tim Cook proudly displays the full 2016 Mac desktop computer line-up.
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krause734 Avatar
127 months ago
Tim Cuck is more like it. Getting owned by Windows and Android while he looks at tables.
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127 months ago
Bring Apple Pay to Germany, yo.
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127 months ago
How is this political or social?

Edit: Nevermind, you guys already managed to make it political.
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Glassed Silver Avatar
127 months ago
Hard at work on that exciting product pipeline I see.
Hmm you know, if anything I'd hope that executives of Apple tried a little more to witness other cultures and regions themselves so they can LEAD their teams or see the necessity of smaller regional teams leading and influencing the development of products with respect to local needs and specialties a little more.

Living in Germany I can tell you that Google's got the localization down quite well, Apple not so much.

This doesn't "just happen", it needs leaders to recognize and gain their own overview, or blindly trust the hopefully qualified people to lead such efforts.

This will become more crucial as we move into an ever more personalized, smart world of technology that people will undoubtedly interact with more naturally and intimately.

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